Englische Erklärungen und ja...

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Englische Erklärungen und ja...

Beitragvon Fizzl » 16 Januar 2014, 13:10

Hey, keine Ahnung, wieso ich wieder so viel prokrastiniere, aber heute hatte ich spontan Lust, einen englischen Beitrag zu verfassen, wie man den BH auf Passform überprüft. Mit ein bisschen grundlegender Einführung zur Materie... Ähm ja, ich wollte ihn euch einfach mal zur Ansicht geben, was verbessert werden kann.

Ich habe das gemacht, weil mir mittlerweile auffällt, dass ein ganz wichtiger Punkt immer vergessen wird (bei Bravissimo und so): die Bügelbreite. Dabei steht und fällt der Sitz doch damit. Im Endeffekt kommt man darauf zurück.
Orange im Glas: Check die Bügelbreite
Umgekehrte Buchstabenphobie: Check die Bügelbreite
Zu kleine Cups bei zu weitem Band: Check die Bügelbreite...

Es ist an einigen Stellen noch ziemlich konfus, aber vielleicht kann man damit ja was anfangen... Ich weiß noch nicht wie oder wo, aber das musste mal raus xD (ursprünglich wollte ich das auf Facebook posten, aber es ist so lang geworden und noch so unstrukturiert und...)
Vor allem die Erklärung der Punkte A bis D (D im Besonderen) sind noch nicht optimal und mein to and too stimmt auch vermutlich nicht immer... bin mir da gerade auch nicht sicher xD



Well it is said that around 80 to 90% of all women wear the wrong bra size and many retailers give a lot of advices to check if it fits. Well many of them I think are not so well done as you can trick them. So let me explain how to check if your bra fits.
Did you know, that the German word for bra is “Büstenhalter” which means “Breastsupport”? Always remember that the bra has the purpose to support your breast.
But first: why is a well fitting bra something you want to aim for? Well even if the backband might be tighter it is a lot more comfortable. If your are a big busted girl you won't have to hold your breasts when walking down stairs or running after the bus. If your are a small busted girl your breast will also be supported and your breast will look larger.
Here are a few examples how much it changes to wear the right fitting bra. The old one is always the first picture.
Smaller back and small bust: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3701
smaller back and average bust: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=12287
smaller back and large bust: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5171
large back and large bust: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3588
But first keep in mind: most support of a bra comes from the backband and not the straps. Most women wear bras with a band too loose and a cup to small, as they are afraid of large letters because so many people tell bullshit like a DD is gigantic. Forget that stupidity as the breast of a woman wearing a 28DD is as large as the breast of a woman wearing a 34B.

Okay, most women wear a band too large and a cup too small. So this will work easily. If you wear a band too tight and a cup too large you have to be very careful. And never believe that you will have only one brasize, as your body changes and all the bra producers out there are not able to work according to an industrial norm or whatever. I wear bras in 6(!!!) different sizes and they all fit.

But now how to check:

1. check if the wires of the bra are behind your breast tissue and the center gore lies flat against your chest. Second is easy, first is a little bit tricky but all you need is your best fitting bra and an eyepencil. Stand with a bare chest in front of a mirror and turn to the side you want to check. Now, let's say you want to check the wires at your right breast. Take the eyepencil in the right hand and put your left between your breasts. Now push your right breast to the right. There will be a line now visible that shows you where in most cases your breast tissues end. Now draw the line with the eyepencil so you will be able to see it when you put on your best fitting bra. So after you put on that bra, check if the wires of the bra are where the line is drawn or behind. If that is not the case your bra does NOT fit.
What to do now: go down at least one band size because you will never have bought a bra in a correct band size where the wires lie on your breast tissue as this hurts. Also you will have to got up a cupsize, as you would never buy a bra that looks too large at you (this is about volume). So that means if your bra was a 34B go down to a 32D (why not a 32C? Well the cupvolume of 32C and 34B is equal.)

2. Now the backband. It should be snug but not too tight. As the backband gives the most support it is most important that it fits. Sure, some people will now say it should be as tight as possible, but that does not stay in touch with the physics of a bra. But first how to check if the back band is not tight enough: well if it rides up your back when you pull the straps to your ears it surely is not tight enough. But that is not all. Remember the band should be as loose as possible but as tight as it needs to be. So put on your bra properly and then rotate your upper body to the right and left and feel if the band stays in place or not. If it moves it will still be to loose. The other way around: if it is too tight the wires of your cup will be a large way away from the drawn line from point 1 (just if the cups seem large enough). Also if it is so tight that you can hardly put a finger underneath the backband, it is too tight.. By the way: it is sometimes important to check the bandsize with the cup on your back, as cups too small will “steal” length of the band.

3. For the cupsize the band must fit, else you wont be able to check this properly. And you have to know how to put on a bra correctly. Let's start with a short explanation how to put on a bra properly:

    A. put the wires under your breast and lean forward, so the tissue falls into the cups
    B. pull the backband to your back an close it. This might take a little bit of exercising but even I learned it after some time ;)
    C. put on the straps and put the backband to the right hight, parallel to the bottom and the wires as closely under your bust as possible.
    D. Now massage all the tissue from the sides and back that is possible in front of the wires, so this is also part of the volume of the cup. Your nipple should be at the deepest point of the cup.

After you have put on your bra like this you should look at the wires first again. Are the behind your breast tissue. If yes, when check if there is tissue that spills over the cup. If yes: your cup size is to small. Go up at least one cupsize. If not, check if there is loose fabric or you have to adjust the straps very tight that there is no loose fabric the cup might be to big (or it is a wrong shape, but that is another topic and nearly as complicated as just checking at the beginning)

4. The last check is the most fun. If you think the bra fits, then sit down and feel if the wires does not sting into your flesh. Take the arms in front of you like you use a keyboard or like you are driving your car our a bicycle. And at last: jump a little bit and shake your upper body to see, if your boos still stay in the cup. If this happens, well your bra works the way it should :).

If you check for the right bra size (and it is trial and error at the beginning, or you just measure yourself what I will explain below), you will hat to check all three points again and again. That is due to the physics of a bra.

If the band is too tight, it will stretch the wires and “steal” volume from the cup so you will loose support and a cup that is too large might seem to small as the volume of the cup was also used as backband
If the band is too loose a cup too small might not hurt, even if the wires lie on the breast tissue, as this is just put on the breasts without a supporting function. With a band too loose you won't have any support or the whole weight is on the straps. That hurts and is unnecessary.
If the cups are too small you will always need a band too loose, so you won't feel too tight.
If the cups are too large you will always need a band that is tighter to feel supported. And you will always need to adjust the straps very tightly so more weight comes to the straps.
If the wires of a bra are too small it might seem like your breast is too small for the bra, as it cannot fill out the whole volume of the bra, because the tissue is behind the wire. So the cup is too small, even if it looks too large (that is another point why it is so important to check the wires)
If the wires are way too large and way behind your breast tissue you will loose support and a band will feel too loose and the cups too small.

So you see this all fits together and you have to keep that in mind if you check for a bra. I know it sounds very confusing, but after a few tries this will be part of your routine as walking in a new pair of shows when trying for the decision to buy or looking at the length of a new pair of jeans or if it fits when you sit down with it or is uncomfortable then.
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Re: Englische Erklärungen und ja...

Beitragvon Fizzl » 17 Januar 2014, 12:54

Was sagt ihr zu der Überlegung, dass man das mit den Bügeln vielleicht ein wenig in den Vordergrund rücken sollte?

Was kann man daran noch verbessern? Wo kann ich ihn sinnvoll posten? Oder ist es dadurch, dass es recht chaotisch ist murks?

Etwas Rückmeldung wäre echt super...
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Re: Englische Erklärungen und ja...

Beitragvon headology » 17 Januar 2014, 13:50

Ja, ich bin da voll dafür - also die Bügel in den Vordergrund zu rücken. Ich sehe das auch als das (Haupt-)Problem.
Was hältst du davon, den Text in das englische Subforum zu verschieben? Dann kann er da diskutiert werden. *sonne*
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Re: Englische Erklärungen und ja...

Beitragvon Fizzl » 17 Januar 2014, 14:13

Klar, klingt gut :).

Soll ich da dann auf Englsich noch was schreiben dazu?
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Re: Englische Erklärungen und ja...

Beitragvon headology » 17 Januar 2014, 16:21

Kannst du natürlich, wenn du magst. :)
Ich verschiebe mal...
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