Translation of forum rules and netiquette

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Re: Translation of forum rules and netiquette

Beitragvon headology » 26 Oktober 2012, 11:51

Sorry für die von mir erzeugte Verwirrung bzgl. Appleblossoms Meldung, die ich nicht eingetragen habe. :oops:

Und noch mal Danke an alle, die mitmachen. Ihr seid toll! *zusammen*
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Re: Translation of forum rules and netiquette

Beitragvon Kiralein17 » 26 Oktober 2012, 17:23

Ich würd auch sagen "men at the forum".
Zu netiquette von sternheim:
In our opinion the forum is not possible mixed-gender because bras and Bra-Fitting are women's issues.

Ich würde eher sagen : "We hold that mix-gender will not work, because bras and Bra-Fitting are women's issues.

Und eine winzige Kleinigkeit:
Although Bosom Buddies is a forum for women we all do have male friends, buddies, husbands, fathers, brothers or sons in real life to whom we can talk and with whom we can share our experiences.

Mit : Although Bosom Buddies is a forum for women(,) we all do have male friends, buddies, husbands, fathers, brothers or sons in real life(,) to whom we can talk and with whom we can share our experiences. den Kommas wird leserlicher, bzw. einfacherer zu lesen finde ich :)

Und bei Seepferdchen's Nummer VI
If you are in doubt, rather post a link instead.
Ich würde eher " If you are not quite sure, rather post hte link instead".

Und
Remember the rights of the shown persons and that you must not post pictures of them without their permission.
eher. "Do not forget about the rights of the persons shown, and that it is not allowed to post those pictures without their permission. :)
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Re: Conduct of discussion

Beitragvon headology » 28 Oktober 2012, 21:45

Oh-oh, I'm late. As always, I set a brilliant example... :oops:

Netiquette III - Conduct of discussion

Busenfreundinnen.net is no service enterprise. Advice is free of charge. Team members answer your questions in their spare time, they are not paid for their work. Please keep that in mind before creating more than one counselling thread. We come to your question as fast as we can. (Der Rest ist für das Unterforum irrelevant, denk ich. Zur Übersicht: Erneutes Nachfragen in deiner Erstberatung führt nicht zu einer schnelleren Beratung; wir behalten uns vor, je nach Kapazität und Erstelldatum zu beraten. Wir bemühen uns, das Forum so übersichtlich zu halten, dass man auch als Neuling schnell und einfach auf die wichtigsten Informationen zugreifen kann. Bitte versuche dich nach Möglichkeit erst mal selbstständig ins Thema einzulesen und benutze die Suchfunktion, bevor du ein neues Thema erstellst.)

Communicating over the internet is not easy: since you cannot rely on intonation or facial expression, misunderstandings are quite common. So please take your time when reading a posting and make sure your intentions are clear, for example, if you use irony, mark it as such!
Principally it's wise to assume, that other users are friendly people who are trying to help you.

Some discussions tend to become pretty heated - try to stay calm and respectful and stick to the facts. Think carefully if you've already used every last one of your arguments and you're only repeating yourself. Sometimes, if you cannot convince your dialogue partner, it may be reasonable to quit the debate. Do not enter at all if you're having problems to bear conflict and tolerate different opinions. Criticism should not be personal but targeted at the argument.

If you're realising that it is increasingly hard to be impersonal, consider terminating your conversation or at least, have a break between posts, have a tea/coffee or a walk, do something else. On occasion it might be a good idea to skip some discussions or ignore users you're always arguing with.

Insults are absolutely forbidden! We also do not tolerate provocations or trolling!

It would be nice if you could check it your posting fits the topic or forum you write it in. This is especially important for valuable information that will be lost when written only in a nonsense debate.
By the way: we're always be thrilled about reviews, reports on your experiences and other relevant information.
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Re: Translation of forum rules and netiquette

Beitragvon hayashi » 30 Oktober 2012, 17:06

Ich würde es grad gern nach Reihenfolge durchgehen, aber irgendwie ist es zu unübersichtlich mit den Zwischenrufen und allem (weil später auf was von früher Bezug genommen wird, aber man ja nicht zwangsläufig immer alle Posts komplett sehen kann).
Ich glaube, ich setze mich heute Abend mal ran, drucke es aus und poste dann Stück für Stück, was mir auffällt *undweg*
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Re: Translation of forum rules and netiquette

Beitragvon headology » 30 Oktober 2012, 18:14

Also, ich würde sagen, der erste Schritt wäre, alle Hauptteile in einem Thread zusammenzufügen. Bin bisher nicht dazu gekommen. Und dann wäre es wohl am besten die Endkorrektur auf ein paar Freiwillige aufzuteilen.
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Re: Translation of forum rules and netiquette

Beitragvon hayashi » 30 Oktober 2012, 20:41

So. Ich hab mich mal durchgewühlt :D
Was mir auffiel:
"Posts" und "Postings" - da sollte in der Endversion eine Version durchgängig verwendet werden. (gleich kommt der nächste Teil) ;)

Rules - Preface
One aim of this forum is to help women to get bra-fitted. The forum also intends an improvement of offerings by adjusting the offerings to women's actual needs.

In getting access to "Bosom Buddies" you and the operator of this forum sign the contract explained above. With your registration you agree to the terms and conditions of this contract. You can look up these terms and conditions including forum rules, netiquette and privacy policy at any time. If you'd like to resign the contract, please send a private message to the moderators or compose an e-mail to the forums administrator. Your account will be deleted then. Please note, that you have transferred a legal right of use to the operator for all of your postings on this board by agreeing to the terms and conditions of the contract. Therefore you cannot demand for deletion of your postings. If you wish so, your personal data will be extinguished with your exit according to legal requirements. The team owns the right to change, adjust, complete or delete your postings on this board. This only will happen if it is necessary according to technical, ethical or legal reasons. For that no announcement or explanation is needed. Please note, that you are offering the right to apply these changes to us by posting on this board. As this is the case, please consider well before posting.


I. General Rules
1. Every woman should feel comfortable on this forum. All degrading descriptions, especially regarding bust and figure, should be avoided. Discussions “big vs. small bust” are forbidden. Posts that don’t follow this rule will be deleted, if necessary without warning.
2. All posts should be written as intelligibly as possible, also regarding orthography and grammar. Descriptions of bust or figure should be neutral.
3. The forum is neither a dating site nor a database of potential partners. Such posts will be deleted and the users banned.
4. No nude pictures are published in this forum. Pictures of women in underwear are shown exclusively in the closed gallery. If someone tries to steal your pictures, immediately contact the Global Mods. Users who ask others to send them pictures via private messages, will be deleted without warning.
5. Every user should abide by the netiquette, which is listed further down on this page.
6. Only authentic statements are to be quoted.


II. Users
1. Nicknames of an offending nature are deleted automatically. For practical reasons it is not recommended to choose a nickname already existing and to change it only by adding numbers or by using a slightly different spelling. Signatures must not exceed a length of 3 – 4 lines and they must not contain any big pictures or tickers (smilies are appreciated though). It is not allowed to use trademarked names (e.g. brand names) – they might be deleted even without warning.

2. In case of a breach of these rules the user will be warned at first and be observed/monitored. If there is a repeated breach of the rules, the user will be warned again and be banned from the forum for a limited or even for an unlimited time if necessary.

3.Shops and manufacturers
a. Manufacturers, shopkeepers or trades' keepers are welcome to contact the administrators in order to get a commercial account. The e-mail should be sent by an address belonging to the company’s domain and should contain the family name and first name of the person communicating with the forum, the login as well as the achieved aim of being a member of the forum (e.g. long-term cooperation, a single test of a new collection).

b. Manufacturers and shopkeepers are allowed to have private accounts in the forum. However,they should not use them alternately; so it is not allowed to write from your commercial account as a private person.

c. Every statement contradicting the activity of the forum is forbidden. For example, it is not allowed to suggest the size 36D to a woman whose size is 32F.

statt "breach" würde ich eher "infringement" nehmen. Vielleicht ist das aber auch nur mein Gefühl
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Re: Translation of forum rules and netiquette

Beitragvon hayashi » 30 Oktober 2012, 20:58

III Forum Organisation

1. Each user should care about the order in the forum. That includes, to help other users (to show right forums or threads, to advise in the help section), to add information about bras – review in the brand thread, information in other forums. Each thread should be marked clearly, adjusting it in the right (discussion) board.
2. The “determination of the right bra-size and first counsel”:
a. The determination results of a brief description. Do not send photos of naked breasts. If you receive a PM with a request of a photo, please report it to the global-mods.
b. In this board, only seasoned Bra-Fitters/Bra-Fitters-trainees are allowed to counsel. Users who want to become a Bra-Fitter-trainee, should message the Mods. Each request will be observed individually.
3. Gallery
The Gallery is a board divided into two parts: The opened part with comments for those, who do not admission for the gallery. The locked inner part does only include photos of women in underwear or clothes. Photos of naked breasts won’t be published
The rules concerning the admission for the gallery can be found here.
4. There won’t be any private counselling via PM or e-mail.

"demand" klingt nach Forderung. Daher abgeschwächt. Genauso klingt "Appointment" nach einem Treffen/Termin.
Bezüglich Punkt 3 sollten wir anpassen. Auch in der deutschen Version. Wir haben ja nicht mehr die Kommentarthreads und die Fotos getrennt.

VI. Copyright, avatars, forbidden content
1. Only such pictures, texts and other contents may be posted, that are free from rights of third parties (which means that you need to have the right of use/copyright). If you are not sure, rather post a link instead. In case of an important exception, an approval may be sent to the administration of the forum and the picture may be posted afterwards.
Quotations are supposed to be limited to the necessary length and be accompanied by sufficient sources.
A source must be mentioned with pictures as well – whether they are own pictures or someone else's. Do not forget about the rights of the people shown, and that it is not allowed to post those pictures without their permission.
Hotlinking of pictures (embedding with the help of an img-BBCode so that the picture is shown from a foreign server) is a form of traffic theft and therefore prohibited. You may upload the photos on websites such as imageshack or save them as an attachment on the forum.
By embedding pictures or other contents (whether as an attachment or with the help of an img-BBCode) you declare that the embedded contents is free from rights of third parties and that you are responsible for the publication.

2. The moderating team reserves the right to delete contents (also avatars) without warning if there are doubts.

3. Asking for copyright protected contents as well as advertising it and posting links to it is prohibited. This also refers to any discussion of illegal topics, such as downloading music, films e.g., which are not free from rights of third parties. Such posts will be deleted without warning.

4. It is prohibited to post or make available graphics, pictures or texts with National Socialist, pornographic or other contents that is against German law in force or considered as offensive to others by the moderators.

5. Apart from deleting posts, moderators may also block or delete individual users in serious cases.

6. Avatars: The same rules like for all other pictures are valid. The source has to be mentioned in the box in the profile.

7. External Smilies: Linking of external smilies has to be in accordance with the rules of the websites that offer the smilies. If these allow embedding only with additional links, you have to stick to this rule. Smilies may be hotlinked if it is specially permitted by the website.

8. Users who use their first posts to advertise a product or commercial website will be deleted including their posts and without comment (refer to the thread about SPAM and advertisement).

According to judgement* of the Landgericht Hamburg on May 12th 2008, one can be held resposible for the contents of websites one posts links to; unless one distances oneself from them clearly. We hereby distance ourselves clearly from the websites and their contents, for which their authors are responsible themselves, mentioned in this forum/ busenfreundinnen.net. There is no responsibility accepted, neither for topicality and correctness of the contents. (* 312 O 85/98 - „Haftung für Links“)


"smiley" -> "smilies" in allen geändert

V. Other rules
• Editing postings is possible for 30 minutes after submitting them. Please use this feature instead of sending two consecutive postings. For a better recognition of the newly added text you can simply write „edit:“ in front of it.
• Counting Postings: Please do not only answer to collect written postings. Do not just write a short sentence or just write that you agree with former postings or suggestions. When deciding about permission for the gallery or Flea Market we do not only look at the count of the user’s postings but also at the content.
• Signature: We highly recommend to put a short description of your breasts into your signature, this can simplify the conversation about bras in this web forum. Small pictures (max 50 x 50 px) are also allowed, but not more than two of them.
• Selling on our web forum: Selling offers are only allowed to be posted on the Flea Market. You will find more information (rules and conditions for permission to post sales) and about this on the correspondent subboard

Punkt Flohmarkt-Zugang: Mittlerweile automatisiert, muss auch angepasst werden demnach in beiden Versionen.
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Re: Translation of forum rules and netiquette

Beitragvon hayashi » 30 Oktober 2012, 21:06

Netiquette - I. General rules

All women should be comfortable at bossom buddies: We aim for a friendly, open and helping atmosphere. Therefore we ask you to treat women respectfully, as you would like to be treated yourself, regardless of their social background, age or education, sexual orientation or origin, religion or bodyshape.

Due to this goal of the forum, there may sometimes be a restriction to free speech; if your own opinion conflicts with the general rules of the forum or the netiquette, we would like to ask you to keep it for yourself or express it elsewhere on the internet.

It is especially important to us that there is an atmosphere where women can learn to appreciate their bodies, no matter their bust size or shape. Negative comments about bodies are undesirable. Just as undesirable are discussions about whether a big or small bust, fat or skinny women are more attractive, so we don't want to discuss norms and ideals like normal weight or BodyMassIndex (BMI).

Beyond that we decided to not allow compliments either, if they relate directly to body attributes, e.g. "You're adorably slim!" or "You've got a great figure!", as these expressions (can) have a normative character, which means that other women measure themselves by them and despair because they themselves don't fulfill these beauty criteria. Same goes for consoling words like "Your bust is exactly the right size for your body - was it bigger/smaller, it would look disproportional". This is well meant, but for women with a body of different proportions, it may be offending.

Probably, this sounds strict and confusing, but these rules work really well and help creating a comfortable atmosphere at bossom buddies.


Netiquette II - 2. Legibility of contributions
- The language of the forum is standard English. Please try to avoid slang and regional expressions.
- We prefer whole sentences, capital letters where appropriate, correct spelling and grammar. Please use the built-in spell checker of your browser or text program if in doubt. Alternatively, there are small, free programs available, e.g. http://www.phraseexpress.com
- Formatting: Please don't write everything in italics, bold type or colour. This unnecessarily draws attention off the content and to the form of your writing. Writing only in capital letters means shouting on the internet and is considered rude.
- Usage of smilies: Smilies are supposed to replace tone, facial expressions and gestures on the internet and therefore are important to make sure that you aren't misunderstood. Too many however make posts unclear and confusing, so don't overuse them either.
- Punctuation marks: one punctuation mark is usually enough. Long sequences of question marks ("?") or exclamation marks ("!") aren't necessary.
- Important: Please choose a significant thread title, which sums up the main content of the topic.


... eigentlich ist es ja ein deutsches Forum, daher finde ich es gerade befremdlich mit dem "language is standard English" ;)

Netiquette III - Conduct of discussion

Busenfreundinnen.net is no service enterprise. Advice is free of charge. Team members answer your questions in their spare time, they are not paid for their work. Please keep that in mind before creating more than one counselling thread. We come to your question as fast as we can.

Communicating over the internet is not easy: since you cannot rely on intonation or facial expression, misunderstandings are quite common. So please take your time when reading a posting and make sure your intentions are clear, for example, if you use irony, mark it as such!
Principally it's wise to assume, that other users are friendly people who are trying to help you.

Some discussions tend to become pretty heated - try to stay calm and respectful and stick to the facts. Think carefully if you've already used every last one of your arguments and you're only repeating yourself. Sometimes, if you cannot convince your dialogue partner, it may be reasonable to quit the debate. Do not enter at all if you're having problems to bear conflict and tolerate different opinions. Criticism should not be personal but targeted at the argument.

If you're realising that it is increasingly hard to be impersonal, consider terminating your conversation or at least, have a break between posts, have a tea/coffee or a walk, do something else. On occasion it might be a good idea to skip some discussions or ignore users you're always arguing with.

Insults are absolutely forbidden! We also do not tolerate provocations or trolling!

It would be nice if you could check it your posting fits the topic or forum you write it in. This is especially important for valuable information that will be lost when written only in a nonsense debate.
By the way: We're always be thrilled about reviews, reports on your experiences and other relevant information.
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Re: Translation of forum rules and netiquette

Beitragvon hayashi » 30 Oktober 2012, 21:21

Netiquette IV - 4. Delicate and controversial issues
Questioning contemporary ideals, we want to achieve that women can make peace with their bodies and accept themselves the way they are. That is why we ask you not to make your new point of view the standard by which everybody else should be measured, and not to substitute old standards by new ones which might cause somebody to feel neglected and judged.

Hence we recommend avoiding statements guided by one's particular taste about physical appearance; but commenting the clothing's fit instead. (For example: instead of saying: „This makes you look slim/big“, you might say: „This suits you well/not well“.)

One's trouble and frustration whilst shopping for clothes differ according to each woman, her taste and body, which might cause many oppositional opinions to clash. Collective moaning can be comforting, as well as giving advice and swapping experiences, but please keep in mind that no new standards should be established.

Within our „community-zone“, especially HydePark, issues that are not relevant to brafitting are being discussed. Particularly subject areas as politics, religion and sexuality can easily result in controversies, because as a matter of fact opinions may vary substantially. If you would like to join those discussions, please keep an objective tone and respect each other.

Whenever a thread escalates, we reserve the right to close or delete it.



Netiquette V 5. Men on the forum

The internet is public space and the large areas of the forum can be accessed by guests.

Although we do control the parts with intimate details very strictly (i.e. the gallery) we cannot control who signs in at the Bosom Buddies. So we cannot guarantee that there are only women at busenfreundinnen.net.

In our opinion the forum is not possible mixed-gender because bras and Bra-Fitting are women's issues. Because of that we ask men to stand back from participation, except for the following cases:

- The user would like to help his wife/girlfriend/friend/mother/sister to find a well-fitting bra. In this case we are glad to offer help and answer questions. Kindly note, that we ask to refrain from detailed documentation of the search for bras (i.e. in a BRAlog) because we think this is an intervention into women's autonomy and privacy.
- The user wants to find a bra for himself due to increase of breast tissue. Men who suffer from gynaecomastia can post in our gynaecomastia-thread. We also recommend the forum gynaekomastie.xobor.net to this group which deals with this topic on the whole. [vielleicht eher "as a whole"]

To show respect to women's privacy we kindly ask men to identify themselves as male users in their postings and "sign in" as male with the moderators. Male opinions on breasts and/or bras or other explanations of the male point of view are neither helpful nor asked-for. Although Bosom Buddies is a forum for women we all do have male friends, buddies, husbands, fathers, brothers or sons in real life to whom we can talk and with whom we can share our experiences.

Should you as a woman feel annoyed or bothered by a man, please send a personal message to the moderator-group.
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Re: Translation of forum rules and netiquette

Beitragvon hayashi » 30 Oktober 2012, 21:26

Netiquette VI - 6. Handling of infringement of our Netiquette
We (the team of bosom friends/buddies) are trying our best to follow up on everything written. If you find something that violates the rules or the Netiquette and should be censored/moderated according to your belief, it would be best if you notify the section's mods or the global mods. Sometimes it is enough to just express your criticism or counter-argument.
Generally, we are trying our best to criticise in a friendly and constructive way and try not to use brutal and authoritarian methods.
• Unfortunate formulation: Sometimes something can be written (maybe even meant in a good way), without even thinking that it might be understood in a wrong way or may even offend someone else. In such cases you will normally get a PM from the team with a request to change the formulation. Please take this criticism seriously (but not personal).
• Escalating discussions: If a moderator asks you to let a discussion rest, to moderate your tone etc. it is indicated to do so. If you feel misjudged, please write a PM to the global mods. We are willing to get influenced by good arguments or even change our minds.
• Spam, Advertisements, copyright infringement etc.: Posts definitely violating our rules will be removed without warning.
• Repeated Violations: If we get the impression that we permanently have to clear up your posts, we reserve our right to temporarily shut down your account or to read and approve every post you write before it is published. Before something like this happens you will be notified and warned.

Remember: The more severe/intended a violation against our Netiquette, the more unfriendly our reaction.


Und den letzten Teil hab ich nicht übersetzt gefunden:
Netiquette VII




Jetzt bin ich mal gespannt, was noch draus wird :)
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